sad bird in snow: Sort of like I did not expect to be interested in nearly so many men, I guess sad bird in snow: I guess this is in fact proof that there is no such thing as an non-sexy rivalry sad bird in snow: But I'm pretty sure I actually knew that when we shook hands on it.
Morning☆Glory: Sort of. Though I didn't know literally anything about what I was interested in, before here. Morning☆Glory: Well, I had one interest, but that was scripted...
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Morning☆Glory: It did occur to me that it could force a tie if we had a threesome together. Morning☆Glory: Just hypothetically. I was pretty drunk.
Morning☆Glory: I probably always want to have a threesome Morning☆Glory: If there is one thing about myself I've learned, it's that I'm more interested in threesomes than most people.
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Morning☆Glory: but if you had one specifically in mind, the answer is probably more specifically yes, too
Morning☆Glory: Well. I'd try it. Morning☆Glory: I'm not sure how he'd feel about it... It was easy with Dante because we both want to destroy him, but he has serious feelings for you. So it might be weirder to have me there. I know he's pretty sure he's a jealous person. Morning☆Glory: What about Nero...? Morning☆Glory: That is, what would he think about it? Morning☆Glory: I was joking about it the other time, but I don't actually want to steal his fiancee away. Even if it's for threesomes. Morning☆Glory: ...Especially ones he could be having.
sad bird in snow: I'd have to ask... he's been kind of insecure recently about, er... I think like, not having tried as many things as other people sad bird in snow: so maybe it's not a bad idea if it's someone who's a friend...?
sad bird in snow: oh this is definitely a real "on another note" but Raven definitely told Nero he was into him during the game and Nero was very sad he was too nervous to kiss him
Morning☆Glory: Oh. That's cute Morning☆Glory: Though Raven's probably freaking out about it... I'll have to talk to him. Morning☆Glory: I meant what would Nero think about you, me and Raven, though. If that wasn't clear. Morning☆Glory: I'd definitely also have a threesome with you and Nero, obviously, but if he's nervous about it to start with I doubt doing it with me would improve anything.
sad bird in snow: Oh that makes sense, I read that wrong. sad bird in snow: I mean, he holds himself to different standards than he does me and really doesn't mind if I sleep with someone else, since we're both really... I guess the attitude is "of course everyone should also want to kiss her, she's wonderful" which is, of course, very cute of him. sad bird in snow: actually when I told him about Raven I think he was more alarmed by me feeling like it was a big deal
Morning☆Glory: Yeah, I wasn't thinking he'd be upset about you sleeping with me, exactly. I've got that attitude too, obviously. More like... Morning☆Glory: Well, if it's a threesome specifically, and he's already insecure about not having done things, or not being able to do things like that Morning☆Glory: You doing it with someone else might make him feel like he's not measuring up? Morning☆Glory: I definitely had feelings like that, when my boyfriend was doing things with other people he wasn't with me. Like... I just couldn't do things properly, or I wasn't sexy enough.
sad bird in snow: Ah... that's really true sad bird in snow: so that's a good point... sad bird in snow: although apparently someone has proposed a foursome to him
sad bird in snow: I have no idea. he was extremely wasted when he was telling me about this sad bird in snow: I told him that he should probably wait until he was sober to make decisions about... a lot of things.
Morning☆Glory: Maybe it was more an example of how far he still feels like he's behind, then... Morning☆Glory: First everyone's dating lots of people when he doesn't even know how to have a relationship, then he gets the hang of that and someone wants a foursome when he can't even handle a threesome... that kind of thing. Morning☆Glory: Though I know he still feels like he's disappointing people on that first one, too. Like me. He also talked to Raven about that. Morning☆Glory: I am worried about him forcing himself to do something just because he feels like he should.
sad bird in snow: I’m starting to have that worry for him, too... sad bird in snow: I mean I’m the worst example but at least sex is the one place I’m decent at having boundaries sad bird in snow: Sometimes your comfort zone is your comfort zone.
Morning☆Glory: He's a really good guy, and he wants to make people happy... Morning☆Glory: I can see him deciding that him being uncomfortable is an acceptable price for that, even if the people he's with don't want that for him. Morning☆Glory: Though, to be fair, it's hard... Sometimes you DO want to try something you're a little uncomfortable with, to push yourself and see if it's something you like once you get into it. Morning☆Glory: So sometimes the line there isn't really clear.
sad bird in snow: Maybe I should have Persephone talk to him... sad bird in snow: He’s pretty good at talking through that sort of thing and sometimes it helps to hear from someone who doesn’t have a stake in it
Morning☆Glory: That might be a good idea Morning☆Glory: I did try to talk to him a little, but I'm not sure he even really believes me that he's not disappointing me, so I'm probably the wrong person for it.
sad bird in snow: Mm, it’s probably a very delicate topic... sad bird in snow: But Persephone is embarrassed by practically nothing and also wouldn’t accidentally develop any feelings
Morning☆Glory: That sounds good then. I still don't know him very well, so I'll trust your judgment.
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Morning☆Glory: Speaking of delicate topics, I did have one other thing I wanted to talk to you about. Morning☆Glory: Sort of on the subject of Nero and Raven, I guess
Morning☆Glory: Raven told me he'd been thinking about offering that I could join their family, the other day. Morning☆Glory: I don't really know what that means in practice, and I don't think he does either Morning☆Glory: But I said I'd like that, and he said he'd talk to Dante and Nero about it at least Morning☆Glory: I don't think he has yet... Morning☆Glory: Though Nero did tell me I could come back to their world with them, if I wanted
sad bird in snow: Oh, that's really nice... sad bird in snow: Honestly I can't see Nero being against it sad bird in snow: And that'd make us family, too, I suppose, since I'm marrying in
sad bird in snow: Honestly, my family from home was perhaps sad bird in snow: Not great at being a family sad bird in snow: So I've sort of been making it up as I go along with avante, but I think it's sort of... nice to have a family that you choose, where you have each others' backs and support each other sad bird in snow: It seems like that's also just the default where Cardinal comes from, so maybe it might be worth talking to them
Morning☆Glory: Yeah, I talked to Cardinal about b'ashes and stuff ages ago. Morning☆Glory: That's always been something I want, and I do really like and get along with all of them, and we've done a lot for each other, so I think it would make me really happy, but... Morning☆Glory: I don't know, it seems weirder when they're actual family. Like I'd be intruding. Morning☆Glory: I have no idea at all how to be part of a family. Nero talked to me some about how some of it is seeing the family resemblance in each other, and that sort of thing, which I'm obviously not part of... And if something goes weird, I wouldn't want them to feel obligated to me.
Morning☆Glory: I also wouldn't be helping the incest situation. Clearly.
sad bird in snow: Well, it's sort of... sad bird in snow: well, I suppose it's also like marrying in, in a way. Where it's not as if you were raised together? sad bird in snow: and also I guess we're just sort of barreling through that issue. Apparently.
sad bird in snow: I don't think... there's any real one way to be part of a family sad bird in snow: And it seems like you get along really well with all of them, so it's not like you're intruding sad bird in snow: Also they're all already weird. You cannot make it worse.
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sad bird in snow: I guess this is in fact proof that there is no such thing as an non-sexy rivalry
sad bird in snow: But I'm pretty sure I actually knew that when we shook hands on it.
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Morning☆Glory: Well, I had one interest, but that was scripted...
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Morning☆Glory: It did occur to me that it could force a tie if we had a threesome together.
Morning☆Glory: Just hypothetically. I was pretty drunk.
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sad bird in snow: do you want to have a threesome.
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Morning☆Glory: If there is one thing about myself I've learned, it's that I'm more interested in threesomes than most people.
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Morning☆Glory: but if you had one specifically in mind, the answer is probably more specifically yes, too
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Morning☆Glory: Well. I'd try it.
Morning☆Glory: I'm not sure how he'd feel about it... It was easy with Dante because we both want to destroy him, but he has serious feelings for you. So it might be weirder to have me there. I know he's pretty sure he's a jealous person.
Morning☆Glory: What about Nero...?
Morning☆Glory: That is, what would he think about it?
Morning☆Glory: I was joking about it the other time, but I don't actually want to steal his fiancee away. Even if it's for threesomes.
Morning☆Glory: ...Especially ones he could be having.
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sad bird in snow: so maybe it's not a bad idea if it's someone who's a friend...?
sad bird in snow: oh this is definitely a real "on another note" but Raven definitely told Nero he was into him during the game and Nero was very sad he was too nervous to kiss him
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Morning☆Glory: Though Raven's probably freaking out about it... I'll have to talk to him.
Morning☆Glory: I meant what would Nero think about you, me and Raven, though. If that wasn't clear.
Morning☆Glory: I'd definitely also have a threesome with you and Nero, obviously, but if he's nervous about it to start with I doubt doing it with me would improve anything.
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sad bird in snow: I mean, he holds himself to different standards than he does me and really doesn't mind if I sleep with someone else, since we're both really... I guess the attitude is "of course everyone should also want to kiss her, she's wonderful" which is, of course, very cute of him.
sad bird in snow: actually when I told him about Raven I think he was more alarmed by me feeling like it was a big deal
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Morning☆Glory: Well, if it's a threesome specifically, and he's already insecure about not having done things, or not being able to do things like that
Morning☆Glory: You doing it with someone else might make him feel like he's not measuring up?
Morning☆Glory: I definitely had feelings like that, when my boyfriend was doing things with other people he wasn't with me. Like... I just couldn't do things properly, or I wasn't sexy enough.
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sad bird in snow: so that's a good point...
sad bird in snow: although apparently someone has proposed a foursome to him
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Morning☆Glory: Four people seems a lot more complicated than three...
Morning☆Glory: Do you think it's something he's interested in?
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sad bird in snow: I told him that he should probably wait until he was sober to make decisions about... a lot of things.
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Morning☆Glory: First everyone's dating lots of people when he doesn't even know how to have a relationship, then he gets the hang of that and someone wants a foursome when he can't even handle a threesome... that kind of thing.
Morning☆Glory: Though I know he still feels like he's disappointing people on that first one, too. Like me. He also talked to Raven about that.
Morning☆Glory: I am worried about him forcing himself to do something just because he feels like he should.
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sad bird in snow: I mean I’m the worst example but at least sex is the one place I’m decent at having boundaries
sad bird in snow: Sometimes your comfort zone is your comfort zone.
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Morning☆Glory: I can see him deciding that him being uncomfortable is an acceptable price for that, even if the people he's with don't want that for him.
Morning☆Glory: Though, to be fair, it's hard... Sometimes you DO want to try something you're a little uncomfortable with, to push yourself and see if it's something you like once you get into it.
Morning☆Glory: So sometimes the line there isn't really clear.
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sad bird in snow: He’s pretty good at talking through that sort of thing and sometimes it helps to hear from someone who doesn’t have a stake in it
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Morning☆Glory: I did try to talk to him a little, but I'm not sure he even really believes me that he's not disappointing me, so I'm probably the wrong person for it.
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sad bird in snow: But Persephone is embarrassed by practically nothing and also wouldn’t accidentally develop any feelings
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Morning☆Glory: Speaking of delicate topics, I did have one other thing I wanted to talk to you about.
Morning☆Glory: Sort of on the subject of Nero and Raven, I guess
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Morning☆Glory: Raven told me he'd been thinking about offering that I could join their family, the other day.
Morning☆Glory: I don't really know what that means in practice, and I don't think he does either
Morning☆Glory: But I said I'd like that, and he said he'd talk to Dante and Nero about it at least
Morning☆Glory: I don't think he has yet...
Morning☆Glory: Though Nero did tell me I could come back to their world with them, if I wanted
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sad bird in snow: Honestly I can't see Nero being against it
sad bird in snow: And that'd make us family, too, I suppose, since I'm marrying in
sad bird in snow: Honestly, my family from home was perhaps
sad bird in snow: Not great at being a family
sad bird in snow: So I've sort of been making it up as I go along with avante, but I think it's sort of... nice to have a family that you choose, where you have each others' backs and support each other
sad bird in snow: It seems like that's also just the default where Cardinal comes from, so maybe it might be worth talking to them
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Morning☆Glory: That's always been something I want, and I do really like and get along with all of them, and we've done a lot for each other, so I think it would make me really happy, but...
Morning☆Glory: I don't know, it seems weirder when they're actual family. Like I'd be intruding.
Morning☆Glory: I have no idea at all how to be part of a family. Nero talked to me some about how some of it is seeing the family resemblance in each other, and that sort of thing, which I'm obviously not part of... And if something goes weird, I wouldn't want them to feel obligated to me.
Morning☆Glory: I also wouldn't be helping the incest situation. Clearly.
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sad bird in snow: well, I suppose it's also like marrying in, in a way. Where it's not as if you were raised together?
sad bird in snow: and also I guess we're just sort of barreling through that issue. Apparently.
sad bird in snow: I don't think... there's any real one way to be part of a family
sad bird in snow: And it seems like you get along really well with all of them, so it's not like you're intruding
sad bird in snow: Also they're all already weird. You cannot make it worse.
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