sad bird in snow: It does seem kind of like everyone collectively adopting you... sad bird in snow: But I think it's true that Cardinal would be a good resource sad bird in snow: Also, I'm really happy for you
Morning☆Glory: Thank you Morning☆Glory: I'm not sure I can totally be happy about it yet.. Morning☆Glory: I guess it's so much what I want that it seems too good to be true until it actually happens. Morning☆Glory: If I even think about it too hard I get scared I'm going to mess it up somehow. Morning☆Glory: Though I am happy that Raven thinks enough of me to even suggest it.
sad bird in snow: I'm not sure there's a way you can mess it up... sad bird in snow: I mean, I was worried about telling Nero I was interested in him because I was worried it would ruin the family he wanted, but instead it was nice sad bird in snow: I guess the idea of family is... even if you argue, it's a bond that runs deeper than nearly all disagreements sad bird in snow: My brother hated me, but he was still my brother, and I still cared about him
sad bird in snow: Maybe then... well, just spending more type together and finding ways to rely on each other sad bird in snow: That'll start to build it, won't it? sad bird in snow: It seems like you already have that relationship with Raven for sure
Morning☆Glory: Yeah. Morning☆Glory: Raven for sure. Morning☆Glory: Maybe I'm just afraid that if I push on the family thing too fast, it'll be too weird for the others, and it won't be the same.
sad bird in snow: Well, on the other hand, I don't think avante would have gotten into the family sort of feeling if Nero hadn't pushed for it in the first place?
Morning☆Glory: That's a good point, I guess. Morning☆Glory: And Nero didn't even know about the family thing, but he was still telling me that he didn't know what any of them would do without me there to make them be a little less dumb about things. Morning☆Glory: So maybe you could argue that I'd help them out...
sad bird in snow: I like the idea of family being family just because they are and not needing to feel useful sad bird in snow: But it is nice to have a niche, in a way.
sad bird in snow: I mean, everyone I call family here isn't actually family sad bird in snow: except I guess I am literally marrying Nero now. sad bird in snow: But if someone's of the mind to be broader about their definition of family, then it shouldn't matter.
Morning☆Glory: I guess that's the part I have trouble getting my head around. Morning☆Glory: How do you decide when someone's family or not? Morning☆Glory: Is it just... wanting them to be? Morning☆Glory: What if they don't want me to?
sad bird in snow: I have no idea when you decide sad bird in snow: some days you just wake up and you have three cute little brothers, none of whom are on the same unit or look remotely like each other but you'd kill for all of them?
sad bird in snow: All right maybe that's just me sad bird in snow: But, I don't know, sometimes you spend enough time around people and you realize your relationships are just taking on that tone sad bird in snow: Or sometimes you're Nero and you decide This Is Just Your Family Now and doggedly make it work until it does sad bird in snow: Or you get adopted, and then it's really obvious.
sad bird in snow: So good thing that seems like what Raven's doing sad bird in snow: Also admittedly sad bird in snow: when you've had sex involving at least two of them sad bird in snow: that's probably a pretty strong indicator that they like you?
sad bird in snow: ...all right that's fair sad bird in snow: That was maybe a little unnecessarily teasing. sad bird in snow: But it's a weird family, so the normal indicators are probably... off. sad bird in snow: Anyway if I get a vote by marriage I'll vote for you
sad bird in snow: ........though I guess I too am not solving this problem of sexual attraction versus familial feelings, sorry.
Morning☆Glory: I appreciate your support. Morning☆Glory: Which sounds a little sarcastic, but I really do. You're definitely part of it too, and the fact that you want me there too does mean a lot. Morning☆Glory: And it's fine, really Morning☆Glory: It's not like I necessarily MIND being sexually attracted to the entire family, it just does seem a bit weird. Morning☆Glory: Though I guess it's not like those things are always totally different... when you're talking about marriage and starting a family like that, that does usually involve sex? Morning☆Glory: So if you imagine that sort of thing expanded beyond the normal man and woman having kids, maybe it kind of makes sense a little...? Morning☆Glory: That kind of makes it sound like I'm marrying all of them, though, which doesn't seem right either.
sad bird in snow: I guess it's just... a lot of different ways of forming close bonds within a group of people, some of whom are related by blood and some of whom aren't sad bird in snow: And sometimes, I guess, that does definitely involve sex sad bird in snow: so I think there's probably something to that?
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sad bird in snow: But I think it's true that Cardinal would be a good resource
sad bird in snow: Also, I'm really happy for you
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Morning☆Glory: I'm not sure I can totally be happy about it yet..
Morning☆Glory: I guess it's so much what I want that it seems too good to be true until it actually happens.
Morning☆Glory: If I even think about it too hard I get scared I'm going to mess it up somehow.
Morning☆Glory: Though I am happy that Raven thinks enough of me to even suggest it.
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sad bird in snow: I mean, I was worried about telling Nero I was interested in him because I was worried it would ruin the family he wanted, but instead it was nice
sad bird in snow: I guess the idea of family is... even if you argue, it's a bond that runs deeper than nearly all disagreements
sad bird in snow: My brother hated me, but he was still my brother, and I still cared about him
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Morning☆Glory: That's the part I'm worried about
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sad bird in snow: That'll start to build it, won't it?
sad bird in snow: It seems like you already have that relationship with Raven for sure
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Morning☆Glory: Raven for sure.
Morning☆Glory: Maybe I'm just afraid that if I push on the family thing too fast, it'll be too weird for the others, and it won't be the same.
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Morning☆Glory: And Nero didn't even know about the family thing, but he was still telling me that he didn't know what any of them would do without me there to make them be a little less dumb about things.
Morning☆Glory: So maybe you could argue that I'd help them out...
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sad bird in snow: While still being able to speak the same language
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Morning☆Glory: It is something good about being with them, either way.
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sad bird in snow: But it is nice to have a niche, in a way.
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Morning☆Glory: But I'm NOT actually family, so...
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sad bird in snow: except I guess I am literally marrying Nero now.
sad bird in snow: But if someone's of the mind to be broader about their definition of family, then it shouldn't matter.
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Morning☆Glory: How do you decide when someone's family or not?
Morning☆Glory: Is it just... wanting them to be?
Morning☆Glory: What if they don't want me to?
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sad bird in snow: some days you just wake up and you have three cute little brothers, none of whom are on the same unit or look remotely like each other but you'd kill for all of them?
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sad bird in snow: But, I don't know, sometimes you spend enough time around people and you realize your relationships are just taking on that tone
sad bird in snow: Or sometimes you're Nero and you decide This Is Just Your Family Now and doggedly make it work until it does
sad bird in snow: Or you get adopted, and then it's really obvious.
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sad bird in snow: Also admittedly
sad bird in snow: when you've had sex involving at least two of them
sad bird in snow: that's probably a pretty strong indicator that they like you?
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Morning☆Glory: GENERALLY that doesn't indicate like in a family way, though, I'm pretty sure.
Morning☆Glory: Also, you don't need to say "at least"
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sad bird in snow: That was maybe a little unnecessarily teasing.
sad bird in snow: But it's a weird family, so the normal indicators are probably... off.
sad bird in snow: Anyway if I get a vote by marriage I'll vote for you
sad bird in snow: ........though I guess I too am not solving this problem of sexual attraction versus familial feelings, sorry.
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Morning☆Glory: Which sounds a little sarcastic, but I really do. You're definitely part of it too, and the fact that you want me there too does mean a lot.
Morning☆Glory: And it's fine, really
Morning☆Glory: It's not like I necessarily MIND being sexually attracted to the entire family, it just does seem a bit weird.
Morning☆Glory: Though I guess it's not like those things are always totally different... when you're talking about marriage and starting a family like that, that does usually involve sex?
Morning☆Glory: So if you imagine that sort of thing expanded beyond the normal man and woman having kids, maybe it kind of makes sense a little...?
Morning☆Glory: That kind of makes it sound like I'm marrying all of them, though, which doesn't seem right either.
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sad bird in snow: And sometimes, I guess, that does definitely involve sex
sad bird in snow: so I think there's probably something to that?
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